At the meeting last week, one of the christians made mention of all the documents outside christianity that make mention of Jesus. That was news to me. I've heard this before. I regret that I didn't say anything, as I wanted to check it out. There is only one document that I am aware of that mentions Jesus, out side the faith. That is a very brief mention in Josephuses book "The Jewish Wars". That was after the fall of Jerusalem in 79 AD. Other documents are like those after Mohammed founded Islam. Of course he new about Jesus as there were Christians living in Meca and Medina at that time as well as Jews. So he knew the histories of both. I then went to Hector Avalos book "The End of Biblical Studies". He is associate professor of Religious Studies at Iowa State University. He is the author or editor of six books on biblical studies and religion and former editor of the Journal for the Critical Study of Religion. So he should know his stuff. He has a chapter in his book called "The Unhistorical Jesus". He takes a look at the archeology and logic of the historicity of Jesus. He backs it up with sources. His conclusion is that Jesus is not historical. Now when one googles the question, one gets numerous hits and 99% of them are Christian fundamentalist based. Always biased and of questionable sources.